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Sheffield's
Titanics by Keith Beeden (Torque
44)
(Written with
greatly appreciated assistance from Tom Robinson and
Paul Fox, and additional information added by Mike
Sutcliffe. It has proved very difficult to find
good in-service photographs of the Sheffield
Titanics but included here are some rare snapshots
which have proved invaluable)
Background - Seating
capacities and tyre technology
In September 1924, Sheffield’s first top covered
double decker, AEC 504 type number 56, was put into
service. Although of higher seating capacity (52
seats compared to the 34 on a typical open topper of
the 1913-21 period), mechanically, this latest
forward control chassis from AEC was little
different from the earlier design. The main
attraction was the additional seating that could be
provided and, although the single deck buses were
now being equipped with pneumatic tyres, the 504
type still retained solid rubber tyres. Accordingly,
the single deck bus was still used in large numbers
and gave a much better quality of ride.
Nevertheless, No.56 was the forerunner of things to
come and was put to work on the recently converted
Petre Street tramway route, though due to its poor
performance was redirected to the less arduous route
57, the Stocksbridge service. The Sheffield General
Manager, A.R.Fearnley, was regarded as an ardent
tramway man, but he realised that improvements in
the motorbus design, were of significance.
Furthermore, he could see that the bus was slowly
approaching the capacity of a tramcar. The double
deck bus was to become a decided competitor to the
railed transport in Sheffield. Similar buses to 56,
Nos.57-64, of AEC type 507, were delivered in 1925.
In some managerial quarters, there was the opinion
that the pneumatic tyre would never be capable of
carrying the weight of a laden double decker and
this was widely publicised at the time. To this end,
Guy Motors Ltd. was currently working on the concept
of applying pneumatics to a double deck bus. The
idea of a paired set of wheels at the rear was
discounted, because of poor reliability and wheel
changing difficulties. The Guy Company approached
the problem in a new way. By the provision of a
bogie-set of four wheels, located at the rear,
instead of the usual single axle, and the additional
weight of a double decker could be accommodated. The
idea was progressed, with encouragement from the
Municipal fraternity and the company introduced the
six-wheeled double deck CX model in 1926.
Experiments with
six-wheelers
Arthur Fearnley was anxious to provide more seating
in the double deck bus, to compare with the sixty
plus of a tramcar. The opening of the new council
estate on the Manor area was to be the instigator of
higher capacity buses to connect with the Darnall
shopping centre. This was before the Prince of Wales
Road tramway was laid, between Manor Top and Darnall.
Accordingly a Guy CX normal control bus, was put on
order, and this vehicle seated 60 in its Short Bros
built body (H32/28R). It arrived in 1927 and took
the number 131,
WE 40, chassis number CX22521, and
entered the fl eet in 1927. Noteworthy is the fact
that the 130s series of numbers was utilised for
experimental buses in the late twenties and early
thirties. No further examples of the CX or its
forward control successor (the FCX) were ordered
from Guy by Sheffield Corporation Tramways & Motor.
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An evocative view in the background at
Townhead Street depot, beyond the Roberts
bodied AEC Regal AWA 996, is a line up of
Leyland Titanic buses, with Leyland, Cravens
and Cowieson bodies. If the original of this
picture is enlarged the identities of
some of the buses is revealed – on the back
row, against the wall of the garage on the
extreme left
is a Cravens bodied Titanic, second left
No.136 (WE 4381) with Leyland
lowbridge body, next to this can be seen 111
(WJ 7039) the Cowieson
example, beside which is one of the 106-110
(Leyland bodied batch).
(C.C.Hall Collection.)
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A similar design to the Guy FCX was developed by
Karrier Motors of Huddersfield, which firm was
honoured by Sheffield with vehicle requirements of
both single deck and double deck types of model WL6.
Two double deckers, 132,
WE 200,
chassis 45023 with Short Bros. H66R, and 133,
WE1467,
chassis 47002, with a Karrier-built body seating 60
arrived in 1927/28. A further Karrier, a single deck
WL6 was No.127, WE
3169, chassis 42102, bodied by Hall Lewis
seating 37, came in 1928. These were followed by two
more WL6s, in 1929, 139,
WE 3892.
chassis 42108 and 140,
CX 9598,
chassis 42029. Both were single deck type bodied by
Hall Lewis, to B37? and B40? respectively.
Although the Karriers were more numerous, their
reliability regarding engine and transmission was
lamentable. The only one to achieve any credibility
was No.139, when chosen to be the “Guinea Pig” for
oil engine trials in 1930. Mr Fearnley was a very
early manager to promote the potential advantages of
the oil engine, for economy in operation. Using a
German Mercedes-Benz compression ignition unit, 139
was converted from petrol power in 1930. Proving to
be reasonably successful, the vehicle remained in
stock until 1936. In contrast, the remainder of the
Karrier fleet were disposed of much earlier.

The first
Titanic TT1 photographed in June 1927 near the
Leyland works, with its “tramlike” full height
Leyland body for Demonstration use, registered TE
1128.
(BCVMT L004416 )
Leyland Motors enter the six-wheeled bus market
Leyland Motors Ltd, in reaction to this threat to
their bus sales, was not slow to the apparent move
towards the three-axle double decker. A design team
was set the task of producing a similar chassis, to
rival the two other models. Sales of the Leviathan
had been very poor as opposed to its single deck
equivalent, the Lion, which was selling very well at
the time. The single deck LSC Lion came as standard
with pneumatic tyres. Of course the Leviathan was
equipped with solid tyres, and with a high frame and
other mechanical features, like the AEC 504, was
obsolescent. Mr.G.J.Rackham was appointed as Chief
Engineer of Leyland Motors on 1st
May 1926, on his return from the USA, and his first
task was to design and build the six cylinder “T”
type engine and chassis. Rackham, having gained
experience in the forward looking American bus
manufacturing market, brought some refreshing ideas
to the British manufacturing base; potentially, they
would revolutionise the ageing British commercial
vehicle market at that time. Plans followed for
various types of bodies for the new chassis,
including a stepped low height double decker but, by
August 1926, it was still undecided as to whether
the double decker should be a four or six wheeler.
With the knowledge that Sheffield Corporation
Tramways & Motors, and others, were seeking a double
deck bus to achieve near to tram capacity, Leyland
management would have been keen to fulfil their
requirements. No doubt A.R. Fearnley, as a keen
supporter of Leyland products, would be suitably
interested in a Leyland for his purposes. Equally,
the Lancashire fi rm would be anxious to keep his
custom, with the knowledge that Fearnley was a
gentleman of high repute in Municipal circles and
indeed was an adviser in Public Transport affairs;
his advice was sought from a wide spectrum of
operators.
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After its first trip on demonstration to
Sheffield, which was extremely
successful, TE 1128 went to Birmingham where
it suffered all sorts of mechanical
disasters,
particularly with the engine. It was
considered that Birmingham, being
strong AEC supporters, garage staff didn’t
want a Leyland, and sabotage may have been
at hand – as apparently happened when the
TD1 demonstrator went to Birmingham in 1928
and was “tampered with” to spoil its
performance! (Mike Sutcliffe Collection)
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It was decided that after the four wheeled double
decker was designed would come the six wheeler, and
the fi rst prototype chassis was completed in May
1927 (chassis 60004). It was bodied the next month
and featured a full height body, of maximum capacity
with 72 seats and a tram-like rear end, with
enclosed staircase - was this to suit Mr. Fearnley?
The bus had the “T” type 6.8 litre overhead camshaft
six cylinder petrol engine and was registered
TE 1128
and, after two days of testing, was sent straight to
Sheffield for demonstration being set to work on the
Manor Top to Darnall bus service, to meet the heavy
demand. The bus completed over 1300 miles and
yielded a petrol consumption of 4.6mpg, on a very
hilly route and being fully laden much of the time.
There were few problems but, without a clutch brake
and being fitted with a new, heavier clutch, it was
found difficult to change up a gear on hills – this
was rectified by fitting the standard Titan clutch.
The trials were successful as far as Sheffield were
concerned and two further TT1 types with similar
bodies were put on order.
The adoption of the distinctive “Titanic” name is
perplexing, following the maritime disaster, but it
was a chassis of very large proportions and the name
fitted well with the Titan and the “T” for the
range. Rackham had never wanted a six wheeler and
felt strongly that the Titan would suffice for the
double decker market; he was later proved generally
to be right. However, the management at Leyland did
not wish to upset potentially important Municipal
operators with their current “fad” for high capacity
six wheelers, and this must have caused arguments at
Leyland. Rackham left in early June 1928, before the
two buses were delivered to Sheffield, and joined
AEC. By that time he regarded the Titan front end
design as being quite old fashioned and he brought a
refreshing new look with the styling of the new AEC
Regent double decker.

134, WE 2921, a “London” TT1 with Short Bros (to
Leyland design) H59D body, with “tram-like” back
end, photographed before delivery in Meadow Street,
Leyland, just behind the Thurston Road canteen. (BCVMT
L005208)
Right - A close up of one
of the three the 7ft 2in “London chassis”,
showing the additional brake on the cardan
shaft behind the gearbox. There were 3
brakes which required a foot pedal and two
hand levers, as can be seen in the photo.
(BCVMT L005060)
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More Titanics
With Sheffield’s order for two more Titanics Leyland
Motors decided to build three, all in the
Experimental Department (hence chassis numbers
75003-05), and all to a revised design to meet the
Scotland Yard regulations requiring a maximum width
of 7ft 2in. The fi rst two would go to Sheffield
with bodies built to a width of 7ft 6in, and these
would both be full height, dual entrance bodies,
built by Short Bros, Rochester, with 59 seats
(H31/28D) and would have “tram-like” rear ends. The
third chassis was to be submitted to the Scotland
Yard Authorities for approval. Both of the Sheffield
vehicles were delivered in August 1928, after a long
delay by the bodybuilders, and were numbered 134/5,
WE 2921/2,
(chassis 75003/4).
Evidently, the taste for the three axle double
decker bus continued into the early and mid
thirties. A solitary Titanic TT1 model was delivered
in June 1929, very similar to 134/5 in general
chassis design, 136,
WE 4381, in fact the third re-designed
chassis, number 75005, now featuring a low height
Leyland-built dual entrance body, to L61D
specification. It had been in use as a demonstrator
for Leyland Motors. Despite the outstanding
performance put up by the large influx of Titans,
Sheffield still continued the purchase of the
Titanic model, into the mid thirties. In 1932, five
TT2s with Leyland low height L59D were taken into
stock. These were numbered 106-110,
WJ 4606-4610,
with chassis numbers in the new series starting at
100 in October 1931, numbers 12811285, it is
pertinent to mention that this quintet would be the
last Titanic buses to have Leyland built bodies.
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134, WE 2921, caught in
the early thirties on its return journey
from Stocksbridge on service 57.
(The late G.Bullock)
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Following the 1932 purchase, a Scottish Show model,
originally intended for service in Glasgow, was
acquired in 1933. The body for this 60 seater
vehicle was built by Cowieson, Glasgow, to H34/
26R format. It is possible that Leyland frame work
was utilised in this venture, as it was certainly
similar in design to the Leyland “Hybridge” body.
On arrival at Sheffi eld it was numbered 111,
WJ 7039,
Chassis No.3060.

The third
Sheffield Titanic received was 136 (WE 4981) in
1929. This view shows the Rackham feature of a low
height sunken gangway body of Titan inspiration. It
was finished in the standard Prussian Blue and White
livery. (BCVMT L006340)

108, WJ
4608, was photographed at Leyland, just in front of
where the Day Continuation School was later built,
its lowbridge body exaggerating its length. Note the
opening front upper deck windows. (BCVMT L011752)

At the time
the demonstrator was built for Glasgow there was a
pre-occupation with positions for emergency exits.
What a magnificent sight this vehicle must have
been! It became
WJ 7039 in
the Sheffield fleet. (BCVMT L011909)
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A rare in
service photograph of a Sheffield Titanic,
10, WJ 4607, caught on a sunny day at the
Norfolk Arms Public House terminus of the 54
Rivelin Dams service. Evidently quite new,
107 was one of a batch of fi ve Titanic TT2
models, Nos.106-110, delivered in 1932.
They carried Leyland low height L59D bodies
and the TT2 classification is confirmed by
the semifloating rear axle configuration.
This delivery of five Titanics were the last
to be bodied at Leyland, probably because it
was uneconomic to produce small quantities
of non standard bodies. (P.Fox Collection)
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A final order for
Titanics is placed
The intake of three-axle buses did not end there,
for a great surprise ensued when Sheffield
Corporation and the Joint Omnibus Committee (that
incorporated LMS and LNE Railway interests) placed
an order for fifteen Titanic TT2c chassis. This
particular order has always been a source of mystery
and intrigue and hitherto, the LMS and LNE partners
were never very keen on the Titanic concept. They
arrived in 1935, ten for the “A” corporation fleet
and five were for the Joint Committee “B”

AWE 331, number 131 in the Category “B” fl eet,
photographed in the snow in the winter of 1935 .The
livery was a modified version of the Prussian Blue
and White style, lined in gold. This type of
Leyland Titanic TT2c was equipped with the 7.6 litre
petrol engine and Lysholm-Smith torque converter
transmission. Poor hill climbing performance of this
type was a bug bear to the drivers, and they were
very quickly the nicknamed “Dragonflies”. The
reason? - they dragged up each hill and flew down
the other side! The Cravens body was
H60R. (Cravens)
fleet. In the Joint fleet here was one each for the
LMS and LNE. And the Corporation interest in the “B”
fleet absorbed the remaining three. Cravens of
Darnall, Sheffield were awarded the body contract;
it was pretty obvious that Leyland had no interest
in building small numbers of non standard Titanic
bodywork, especially now that they were building the
steel framed “V” fronted bodies.
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A rather
poor,, but rare picture in wartime, enlarged
considerably form the background of a photo
of a bombed AEC Regent. (CC Hall
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The chassis were surprisingly
equipped with petrol engines, as from 1934
Sheffield, a pioneer operator of oil-engined buses,
had taken no other petrol powered machines since the
previous year. The inclusion of the Torque Converter
transmission (a standard Sheffield specification
from 1934 on all Leyland buses apart from a lone “B”
Titan TD3) served to make these Cravens H34/26R
bodied machines very poor hill climbers. The
high
revving 7.6 litre petrol unit, combined
with
the “Gearless” system, resulted in very
slow
progress up steep hills. For the record,
the
“A” fleet numbers were 251-160,
AWE 351-360,
chassis 4956-4965, and 131-135,
AWE 331-335,
chassis 4951-4955, were in the “B” fleet. Of great
interest is that two of this latter batch of Cravens
bodied TT2c Titanics replaced TT1s, 134/135, of
1928, by then nearly 7 years old and ready for
replacement.
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Left - Close to the end of Titanic
operation, 109, WJ 4609, displays its
wartime livery of Grey and Cream. The scene
is at Hillsborough in 1946, and withdrawal
came in the summer of 1947. (K.Beeden
Collection)
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Right - At
Queens Road yard, AWE 353 number 353 in the
Category “A” Fleet. It is captured here
after withdrawal in December 1946, in
wartime grey and cream livery. This was the
last survivor of the ten Category “A” ,
Craven bodied TT2c batch, 251-260 (AWE
351-360) (J.A.Hunt Collection)
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Due to the 1939-45 hostilities, the 106-110, 111,
and some of the 1935 examples lasted until 1945-7,
with 109 becoming the last survivor of all,
withdrawn in 1947. Again, with hindsight, one would
have expected that some or all of the later Titanic
examples would have been fi tted with 8.6 oil
engines, however, this does not seem to have taken
place. This, I am sure, would have improved both the
hill climbing performance and also the economy of
the rather unpopular Titanic members of the
Sheffield fleet.
Interestingly, Sheffield operated 24 of the 47 of
the models produced, quite remarkable! By
co-incidence, Doncaster Corporation, a near
neighbour of Sheffield, took 10 examples of the
Titanic from the mid to late thirties. Although the
Titanic model was not a great seller in its time,
the single deck three axle versions of the Tiger
TS7T/D and TS8T/D (Trailing axle or Double driven
axle) did sell reasonably well in the late thirties.
Sadly, none of the Titanics survived long enough to
enter the ranks of the preservation movement,
although the shells of some of the Cravens examples
did languish in a local scrap yard until 1950. If
only ! One six wheeled Tiger does however remain.

136, WE
4381, was sold to W Alexander & Sons via Milburn
Motors in 5/37 where it served for 5 more years,
later going to Morrison, Tenby for another 5 years
being withdrawn 1947. (AT Condie Collection)
Finally – A Mystery
Titanic !
When looking through
registration records I have come across another
Titanic which has previously not been recorded, not
in the PSV Circle list of Titanics nor chassis
extracts from sales records! It was fi rst
registered by Leyland Motors Ltd in November 1932,
as TF 9975, a model TT1, chassis 1576, and with 60
seats. It was last licensed a month later, December
1932, and later scrapped. Does any reader have any
information on this vehicle please? - Ed.
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